SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:00:00) Can I brief you on two matters, then questions? Tapos just so that medyo organized yung pagsagot ko sa inyo, can we do the same questions para we don’t have to go back and forth? Unahin na muna natin kay Senator Bato. I’ll tell you that para hindi confusing, then I’ll tell you about the reports sa nangyari.
(0:00:24) So far, what the update is regarding the attack on the Senate last night, the armed attack on the Senate. So, around, let me check my phone. So, tinawagan ako ni Senator Jinggoy ng around 1:27 PM to tell me na he doesn’t think Senator Bato is in the building.
REPORTER:
(0:00:53) Ano, sir?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:00:53) At after lunch, mga 1:27 PM, tinawagan ako ni Senator Jinggoy Estrada to say, SP, wala na si Senator Bato sa Senate. So I checked and asked my Chief of Staff to ask the Sergeant at Arms for a report. So may spot report pala talaga siya. I can read it to you. Saan na yung spot report niya?
(0:01:16) And then, right before, when I came in, ‘di ba, when I saw you guys, sinabi ko na rin, ay, sorry, hindi 1:27 PM, miss-call niya pala yun. So, around lunchtime na ako tinawagan ni Senator Jinggoy. So, okay. Okay.
(0:01:45) Okay. Yun yung sa, yung dun kasi sa attack sa gabi, hindi pa tapos. So. Okay, okay. So long story short, cinonfirm ng Sergeant at Arms that he is no longer in the building. I’m waiting for the complete Incident Report [kung] anong oras umalis. In the meantime, nakausap ko at nag-text sa akin yung kanyang wife. And I told her naman na…
(0:02:56) I will papaabot sa Filipino people and sa 13 yung kanyang message. Sa 13, sabi niya, saan huwag sayangin yung sakripisyo na ginawa ni Senator Bato. She hopes that we stick together.
(0:03:15) Tapos ito sabi niya sa akin, good PM sir, in behalf of my family, we’d like to thank you and all the other senators for all the support you have done for my husband. At the same time, I’d also like to ask for forgiveness for all the confusion and havoc it has created in the Senate. It is for this reason, I am sure that Ronald made his in quotation mark “escape”. He told me habang tumatagal kasi siya dyan sa loob ay mas nadadamay pa kayo.
(0:03:44) Alam naming hindi lulusubin ang NBI at CIDG, and Police o sino pang mga militar ang Senate kung wala siya sa loob. Kaya kahit na gaano siya ka-safe dyan, e mas nangibabaw pa rin para sa kanya ang safety ng lahat.
(0:04:02) Nung umalis ako ng Senate 9:00 pm para umuwi kami sa bahay, last namin na pag-usapan, diyan muna siya mag-stay put. Diyan, yung stay put lang raw siya diyan sa loob kasi safer for him. Tutal may 72-hour TRO. Nagulat at natakot na lang kami for his safety nung narinig namin nasa labas na siya.
(0:04:28) Wala sa plano but knowing him, I am sure he took the opportunity nung nagkaguluhan at nagkaputukan na. Pasensya na po sir, mahaba message ko, etc. I really do want to just want to thank you and ask for your forgiveness and understandings.
(0:04:47) Ito lang ang paraan. Hoping you find time to read this message. So what I did is I also asked the Secretariat. They gave me a report. Up to this point in time, the promise of the NBI director na he will give me at least two things.
(0:05:04) One, a copy of the warrant officially transmitted because he told me in front of the other senators, nasa kotse lang niya, three senators were asking na ibigay na niya sa amin. But he looked at me and said, Sir, pwede bang formal ko na lang i-submit tomorrow? So that was Tuesday. It’s Thursday. We still don’t have it. And he promised me na ilalagay namin under his custody yung 9 (NBI agents caught in the Senate)
(0:05:32) Pero magre-report ka agad about the manner that they tried to arrest Senator Bato. And number three, in connection with number two, report sa ginulpi nilang isang member ng OSAA. Still zero report from the NBI. So I’d like to clarify to everyone, we did not arrest Senator Bato. We extended the courtesy and the traditions of the Senate that hindi pwedeng mag-arresto sa loob.
(0:06:00) He’s not under arrest from any of us. And so far, as far as we’re concerned, there’s no warrant of arrest for him. So he knew from the start. I knew from the start. I never hid from any of you. Anytime you ask me, nandiyan pa si Senator Bato, I answer you to the best of my ability. And I told you, nandiyan pa, tinanong nyo, how long will he stay as long as he likes, ‘di ba? So he made that decision on his own. I found out when Senator Jinggoy called me.
(0:06:28) I had no idea last night because he came pa to see Sec Jonvic. So I brought Sec Jonvic sa taas, sa fifth floor, because ni-request nung isang staff na, Sir, hindi pa alam sa fifth floor na secure na at hindi pa nila alam ang nangyayari.
(0:06:49) Baka pag umakyat yung mga pulis, baka may gulo. So I went up, medyo naka-vest at armado pa yung OSAA. So Sec. Jonvic asked them na lahat may baril iba ba yung baril. We explained the situation that OSAA is still in charge inside but there’s a joint investigation.
(0:07:06) Little did we know na hindi pa fully secured when we answered you because nga may na-aresto actually kagabi. I think na-report niyo na lahat. So I just promised Sec. Jonvic that I’ll wait for his report and that siya magsasabi sa details. Parang nga walang misfire, miscommunication, or accusation. But since someone close to me sent me a text.
(0:07:38) Kasi meron nag-send sa akin ito. PNP confirms Browner’s statement that 30 shots were fired. All of them came from the Senate from Cayetano Security Guard. So first of all, I don’t have a security guard. If they’re talking about the blue guard, wala akong kasa-kasamang security guard. If they’re talking about my security…
(0:08:01) They’re also from the PNP. I double-checked before going here. Walang nagpaputok sa kanila. So anyway, make a long story short, ito po ang text ni Sec. Jonvic. The count was 27 from inside the Senate and 5 from the other side. So my point is, nag-verbal warning sila.
(0:08:25) Tigil niyo yan, whatever the words were used. Sorry, yung OSAA, nag-verbal warning, hindi tumigil yung kabilang side from trying to get into the Senate, so nagpaputok sila in the air. Ang problema, nagpaputok pabalik.
(0:08:39) So ito, whoever the perpetrators was, ‘di ba? Kasi nga, last night, bago mali si Sec Remulla, sabi niya, so far they saw one bullet. So syempre, nakikita ko yung mukha ng OSAA that that’s not possible. So someone showed me the video and ayun nga told me, may live nga, di ba?
(0:08:58) So sinabi ko lang na, Sec, can you allow the OSAA to go inside the kabilang building para may sarili namin investigation? I haven’t really had time to look at all the details pa and I promise si Sec. So the count was 27 from outside from inside.
REPORTER:
(0:09:16) 27 from OSAA? 27 from OSAA, sir?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:09:23) Yes, na count nung putok.
REPORTER:
(0:09:27) From OSAA?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:09:28) Yes. Kasi ang warning shot, itutuloy-tuloy mo yun until nga… Kaya mo wina-warning, ayaw mo magkabarilan. So, kailangan umalis. But instead na umalis…
(0:09:40) Nagputok pabalik. So again, I won’t defend or say much more. Yun lang. But ito, kararating lang sa akin yung text ni Sec. Remulla. NBI had no warrant to serve. They were requested by GM Wic to secure the Senate building at 5:00 p.m. They arrived at 6.15PM. 21 arrived. They were deployed on each floor to secure GSIS. Agent Francisco sitting down on the second floor bridgeway with the white guard, when his attention was called by OSAA, Alaska?
(10:07) Sino ka? Sabi ni Aplaska. Francisco stood up with AR-15 at the sideway sling. Alaska fired a warning short, Francisco pulled the trigger. As well pointed, OSAA eventually discharged 27 rounds of 9,, and 40 SW. Francisco discharged 5 rounds and immediately fled the scene.
REPORTER:
Inaudible.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:10:28) Read out. So, yun lang muna so far. Kasi yun palang binigyan saakin. But let me emphasize this. NBI continually told us na wala silang dineploy sa Senate. Completely. I think pati sa higher ups nila, yun ang sinabi nila. I haven’t had the time to watch the news or to compare who said what. So kayo na ang mag-compare who is saying what. But time after time, in fact…
(0:11:01) Senator Loren got a text when we were having the caucus, na sabi ni NBI Director, hindi daw niya sinabi na pinayagan sila ni Senator Sotto. Eh, all the senators na kasama ko doon, napakarami, Paul said he did not only say it once, he said it three times. So, you know, we can get to the truth if people tell the truth. But if the NBI is not going to be… It’s not going to…
(0:11:31) treat this thing with candor, meaning just tell us the truth, may problema tayo. But I can tell you, I have faith in the PNP and the DILG. They gave me their word. And for some, their word is not important, but I do believe kay General Nartates, Chief PNP, and kay Sec. Remulla, nung sinabi nilang lalabas ang totoo dito, I believe in their, in the word that they’ve given. Let me have a drink of water tapos question.
REPORTER:
(0:11:59) The 27 came from OSAA. Sir, sorry. Nakita ko po kasi, Sir na ang nagpaputok po kahapon, OSAA, and yung armed na Marines, kasama na po sa bilang nung 27 yung lahat ng nagpaputok coming from the Senate force?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:12:12) I don’t want to speculate kasi I just read to you yung sinabi sa akin. But kasi may nakita din ako na report or something sa Facebook. I haven’t verified na the Marines were here to support but did not fire.
(0:12:31) So, I’ll wait for the report naman ng OSAA. After meeting you, ayoko… Kasi OSAA naman is under my jurisdiction. So, I’ll have them explain what they found so far.
REPORTER:
(0:12:43) So, right now, sir, the 27, we can say, are from OSAA lang.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:12:47) Yun ang report ni Sec. Jonvic.
REPORTER:
(0:12:48) Okay. The five came from the Kalaban?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:12:50) Yes.
REPORTER:
(0:12:51) Pataas, sir, or towards OSAA?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:12:54) Yun ang hindi ko masagot. May isang bullet daw sa taas.
REPORTER:
(13:00) And then the rest?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:13:05) Kasi nga, last night nung naghiwalay kami, so far daw, isa pa lang. Tapos, ito, kasi sinabi ko kay Sec. Remulla, I’ll make sure na yung commitment ko not to influence or you know, walang political angle yung aking explanation ng investigation. But he sent me that text na so far yun yung report niya.
(0:13:43) Because nga, mayroon ongoing investigation. I don’t want to speak details for details. I’ll just tell you what he told me last night, nung kaharap niya yung police, na nakita nila, na nakalagay doon yung letra and everything, and winarningan nila. But, you know, if I tell you more details than that, people will already think or speculate. So I’d rather tapusin nila. Ang sabi sa akin ni Sec. Jonvic, bina-backtrace nila. They got a lot of IDs. The guy na bumalik, pinabalik daw siya para kunin yung bag, puno ng maraming IDs sa bag. So they got his fingerprints, bina-backtrace niya. When I left, they were bringing him to Pasay for inquest, so I haven’t gotten the report, unfortunately pinauwi namin lahat ng lawyers kasi nung sinabing clear na, nakiusap din yung mga police, so that their work is easier, paalisin na.
(0:14:40) But can I just mention this, guys? Unprecedented nung Monday na meron law enforcement enforcers na makikipaghabulan sa isang senador. Unprecedented yan. That never happened in the Philippines. Secondly, taking away coup d’état. First time then, in my view, na may ganun armed attack. And hindi sila tumakbo ha.
(0:15:05) They were somehow holding their ground. All of you were here. So there’s a speculation. There’s speculation. May nagsasabi, kami daw ni Bato nagplano or kanina tinanong nyo. Legitimate question yung tanong nyo. Diversionary. If it was a diversionary tactic, it would be crazy. Why? When you did that,
(0:15:24) Lalo dumami yung tao dito eh. Lalo dumami yung police. That’s why nga Sec. Jonvic wanted to go upstairs to make sure it’s okay. But nung kausap ko yung anak, he’s tired, etc. I respected that. Sec. Jonvic respected that. But kagabi, bumaba pa si Senator Bato. Bumaba pa siya para magpakita eh. That was the last time I saw him. Go ahead. …
REPORTER:
Inaudible
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:15:52) I will not interpret because, sabi niya, baka. Because he did not escape during, after. But ang sabi din kasi nung asawa niya, after niya nakita na someone will go so far as lusubin the Senate just to get him, that’s why he did it. Kasi if I was in his shoes, I will escape when it’s least expected. But again, mali yung word na escape because there’s no warrant eh.
(0:16:19) ‘Di ba, there’s no warrant. So, he’s free to go. When you, for example, pumunta ka sa simbahan at sabihin mo, I’m seeking sanctuary. Pag gusto mo nang umalis, pwede ka umalis. It happened kay June Lozada. He slept on my couch on the fifth floor. And then, nung sinabi, doon na lang siya sa mga madre. And then, sinabi, doon na lang siya sa La Salle Green Hills. Lumipat siya doon.
REPORTER:
(0:16:42) Speaking of warrant, bakit siya nagtago sa Senate?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:16:45) Because hinabol siya ng mga NBI na walang warrant. So, I’m not saying as a fact walang warrant. Excuse me. I’m saying they did not present the warrant to us. And I’m waiting for it. They did not give us. If they gave me the warrant, my advice could have been different. So, same. Kayo nag seek [ng] sanctuary dito. Sabi nyo, Sir, media kami. Inaaresto kami. Wala namang warrant. I talked to the police. Ba’t nyo hinahabol?
(0:17:14) Wala, sir. Or may warrant. Nasaan ang warrant? Wala. Sabi ko, dito muna kayo sa Senate. Three days later, wala pa rin yung warrant. Sabihin mo, boss, gusto ko nang umuwi. Umuwi ka na. So that’s the reality. Is it the best? I want him to attend each and every session. I want him to be there. I told him last night, Sen. Bato, sana you can attend the impeachment. It’s his constitutional duty. Last follow-up then.
REPORTER:
Inaudible
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:17:51) Okay, kung tututukan kita ng baril, papasukin ko bahay mo na may baril ako. Warning shot ka. Pinutokan kita pabalik. Is it not an attack? Sorry ha. But I don’t think there’s any question. The Senate is under attack. Was under attack. All of you. All of you. Your lives were in danger last night. I know it’s your job to ask a question. But you will tell me, pagka may nagpaputok na warning, hindi under attack yun? My God. We’re a democracy. This is the Senate of the Philippines. Please naman.
(0:18:27) ‘Di ba? What do you think happens when there’s no democracy? Who’s the first casualty? The media. Wala ng media kapag wala. ‘Di ba, pag sinabing kami muna nagpaputok, umatras sila, or security guard ng GSIS yun, sabihin niyo baka ito ay gawa-gawa lang, baka ito ay drama. Pero nagca-caucuskami dito, hinihintay namin articles of impeachment, nakita niyo naman lahat ng pangyayari, napakagaling ko naman mag-orchestrate ng lahat na yan, kaya kong papuntahin dito mga armadong grupo. You know my history, I’ve been in government since 1992. Do I have any history of doing that? O sa Taguig, have we done anything like that ever?
(0:19:06) So, excuse me, I mean, I’m not taking offense at the question, but, you know, if you have any doubt, you’re doubting our democracy, you’re not doubting my statements.
REPORTER:
(0:19:18) Ask ko lang sir. Sir, sinabi kasi ni Sec. Mendoza right after the shots were fired last night, na perceived NBI. Are you ready to say that na-perceived NBI yung kalaban?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:19:32) Nasabi naman ni Sec. Dong yun, at sabi ko sa kanya, I don’t blame you for giving them the information on the ground. And inaudible, you ask the right questions. Tama yung direction niyo, etc. But I’ll be very fair. When the president called to check how we are, and the president said, it’s not government. It’s not the AFP. It’s not the PNP. It’s not the NBI. Of course, he’s the president. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt i’ll assume but i told him but Mr. president we have a bad in bad experience sa NBI.
(0:20:10) They haven’t been truthful with us. Having said that, Sec. Jonvic assured me, walang whitewash ‘to. So he told me some of the information even before we got home. I’m sorry for the reaction, but people risked their lives yesterday. One of our OSAA… nagulpi na yung isang OSAA, the others could have done this.
(0:20:32) What I want to prevent is that, you know, there are certain things in life na may redline yan. Di ba? Di ba yung, you don’t, you know, you respect your parents, unahin mo yung mga matatanda, inaudible, di ba? Pero kung, yun ay mga normal na kabastusan, ‘di ba? But you don’t attack Malacanang. You can march, you can protest.
(0:20:54) You don’t burn down the Supreme Court and you don’t attack the Senate in an armed manner. It was 100% an attack.
(0:21:03) If it turns out sa investigation na siraulo lang yun, na he lost his mind, then a question, how did he get the IDs? How did he get it? If it was government, then I’m sure the president will act upon it. So I don’t know right now and I don’t want to give details. But yung binasa ko sa iyo, galing na kay Sec. Jonvic yun. At sinabi niya, NBI yun. Okay.
REPORTER:
(0:21:31) Sir, sabi ni sir Jonvic na NBI?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:21:31) My staff was just pointing out that there’s still difference between yung sinasabing ng PNP or ni Sec. Jonvic at yung sinasabing ng OSAA. That’s normal in the investigations. That’s why sabi namin, mag-joint investigation tayo. So far, I do not have a reason to not believe Sec. Jonvic. Why? First, nung nakita yung bag at sinabing pag na bag-an yan, mahuhuli natin or paamoy natin sa aso kung may baril. But he did at may nahuli. Secondly, lahat ng requests niya pinagbigyan ko.
(0:22:11) Umikot yung mga polics, disarm yung iba nating tao. Yung hiningi niya na i-sweep yung floor by floor. Yung hiningi niya na secure yung CCTV. Lahat ng mga hiningi ko sa kaniya pabalik. CCTV nung kabila, yung GSIS, ibigay saatin. Before he left, sabi ko sir, step by step, keep us informed.
(0:22:38) But that’s the problem nga, ‘di ba? So, I’m hoping magkatugma lahat. So, sa report natin, ano yung…
(0:22:55) So, sa report kay Sec. Jonvic, nakababa yung baril. Sa report sa atin, the sergeant of arms asked the individuals to identify themselves. Sino yan? A loud male voice from outside answered, NBI. At that moment, one of the armed individuals was seen immediately racing and aiming a long firearm toward the direction of the QRT, PNP, and OSAA personnel.
(0:23:20) The Sergeant at Arms ordered the individual to lower his firearms on the ground. The individual failed to comply and instead assumed a tactical position, prompting the Sergeant at Arms to fire warning shots, after which the exchange of gunfire followed. The exchange lasted approximately 3 minutes.
(0:23:36) So, siguro you could see why I was upset. Because yung Sergeant of Arms, hindi ako naglagay niyan. I wasn’t Senate President before this. I forget now kung si Senator Chiz or Senator Zubiri, but he’s a respected general. And you don’t get to be a respected general by being a cowboy or gang-ho na hindi ko lang gusto mukha mo, paputok na. ‘Di ba?
(24:01) So when he reported that, may assumption of regularity but I told Sec.Jonvic, if you want anyone to excuse themselves from the investigation because they themselves investigation, ako, kung gusto niyo ako imbestigahan, I will excuse myself from the investigation. So ganun kami ka-open para malaman nga natin. Because nga, you know, when you get used to something, it becomes regular.
(0:24:25) So because we got used to may nag-hold up sa mga kantong madidilim, parang pag-news, sige pag-news pero okay lang. So you remember the first time na may na-rape na 2-year-old or 3-year-old, how outraged everyone is? People are still outraged but when people realize that Shabu does that to the mind, parang nagiging normal sa iba eh. Which we cannot allow to happen. So whether its a heinous crime, or an attack on the Senate, we cannot allow that to become the new normal. That’s why, until this point, I’ve been totally logical reason to say na kami pa yung umatake and everything.
(0:25:08) I could have, if Senator Bato and I wanted to plan him going out, it’s very simple. Sumakay siya sa kotse ko and I’ll bring him out. Why? Hindi naman siya under arrest eh.
(0:25:21) So I do not know why he did it that way. I haven’t talked to him. But what I know is that he’s not under arrest and hindi pa pinapakita hanggang sa amin ngayon ng NBI. But I do believe the President that he did not send anyone here to enforce that warrant.
(0:25:38) So ang question ko nga is why were they here? And pag ikaw ay nakita na at sinigawan, even assuming tama, nakababa yung baril, nagpaputok ka sa taas, warning shot, what do you do? Don’t you show your badge and put up your hands and leave? Bakit nagpaputok pa balik? Knowing this is the Senate.
(0:26:01) So, for me, you know, we really have to know the truth. And by the way, that’s why the last statement I told Secretary Jonvic and Chief PNP Nartates before they left is that please use all your powers in intelligence, in peacekeeping, etc. to make sure no untoward incidents sa impeachment.
(0:26:25) Noong una nga parang ang reaction, akala nila I was talking about government. No, no, I’m asking for your help, your expertise. Tell me what we need to do because this simply cannot happen. If that happens, people are going to just keep pointing fingers. Sasabihin ng itim, gawa ng puti. Sabi ng puti, gawa ng itim. Sabi ng pula, gawa ng blue. Hindi tayo matatapos jaan.
(0:26:49) But I believe they’re using forensic science to, I mean, the fingerprints, the CCTVs, and everything to get there.
REPORTER:
(0:26:59) Paano nakapasok yung armed men? … Inaudible.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:27:05) Well, you’re under protection while you’re under our custody. So, for example, yung kay June Nosada, it was a different situation, but he was still under the protection because nagpaalam siya na lilipat kami ng greenhills. So I will still insist on his rights.
(0:27:25) So, meaning, if he’ll be arrested now, I’ll go to him and I’ll just ask, sino nag-a-arresto? Do you have a warrant? And if they say it’s a foreign warrant, I will ask them, pwede bang sa korte natin dalhin to, hindi sa Hague? Pwede ba? So, do that. At pag nandito sa building, syempre, I have to look muna, ano yung warrant, at alam niyo na yung stand ko. So, in that sense, in that sense, parang siya nag-voluntary umalis sa protective custody ng… Same example ko sa inyo kanina, ‘di ba? If the media comes…
(0:27:55) May naghahabol sa inyo, hindi niyo sure. Kung police [or] hindi. Wala namang warrant, pero kung tingin niyo wala na yung threat, gusto nyo na umuwi. Pwede naman.
REPORTER:
Inaudible.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:28:06) I don’t, as of this time, I don’t know.
REPORTER:
Inaudible.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:28:12) Kasi yung, sorry, kasi yung nahuli, inutusan daw siya to retrieve the tactical bat. So that means the tactical bat. So that means they were already inside.
(0:28:24) Kasi medyo nagpipilit akong lumabas sa office nung nangyari pero ayaw ng security and they said hindi talaga secured dito.
REPORTER:
(0:28:36) …Inaudible… NBI?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:28:36) Yung sinabi niya kagabi ayokong, kasi usapan namin hindi ko muna babanggitin, but yung binasa ko sa inyo ngayon galing kay Sec. Jonvic. May konti lang difference kasi sa… By the way, hindi ibig sabihin galing kay Sec Johnvic, sinabi niya. Ibig sabihin yung investigation nila, nakababa yung baril. As of yung atin, nag-tactical position sila, yung kalaban.
REPORTER:
Inaudible
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:29:08) Yes. I’ll give that part then in part na sinabi ko.
REPORTER:
Inaudible
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:29:15) I don’t know.
REPORTER:
(0:29:17) Dahil umalis siya dito, wala na siyang protective custody …inaudible
(0:29:21) Yes, voluntary siyang umalis. What we’re protecting actually is the sanctity of the Senate, hindi siya.
(0:29:28) Like any other citizen, he has his rights. As a person, as a lawyer, I’ll protect his right kahit saan siya. As president, I’m protecting the integrity ng Senate. Kung mag-a-aresto ka dito, dapat legitimate, dapat coordinated, at kung wala ng legal remedy, we’ll allow you, but better, we’ll convince him to surrender.
REPORTER:
(0:29:49) So now he’s on his own.
ASC:
(0:29:52) Our prayers are with him.
REPORTER:
(0:29:54) How is he working?
ASC:
(0:29:56) I haven’t seen it yet.
REPORTER:
(0:29:59) Inaudible.
ASC:
(0:30:01) It’s just like using PS car. It’s not illegal. There’s no warrant of arrest. Walang obstruction of justice because to obstruct justice, you have to know. So kung hinahabol ka nila, walang mapakita warrant sa akin, tinago kita. Walang obstruction of justice yun. Pinakita nila sa akin yung warrant, tapos nag-plot tayo na itago kita.
REPORTER:
(0:30:28) Inaudible.
ASC:
(0:30:32) Not yet. There’s no warrant.
REPORTER:
(0:29:59) Sir, when the warrant by the ICC was made public on Monday, so how did the Senate treat it? Because as far as you’re concerned, there’s no warrant. But the ICC made public.
ASC:
(0:30:44) Who will we believe?
(0:30:46) Eh, ICC mismo nagsabi nung Sunday, wala.
REPORTER:
(0:30:50) No but–
ASC:
(0:30:50) Kaya nga, tapos, so ano, Monday lang nilalumbas. E, sabi ni Trillane, six months na daw yun eh.
REPORTER:
(0:30:50) Inaudible.
ASC:
(0:30:57) No, no, no. I’ll clarify that. We don’t take judicial notice of that stuff. You have to come to us and present it. So kung meron sa internet na one of you may warrant of arrest, hindi ko na kayo papapasok ng Senate at arestuhin ko na kayo,
(0:31:13) Hindi ba dapat pumunta dito yung polis na dala tapos sinabi?
REPORTER:
(0:31:18) Inaudible.
ASC:
(0:31:28) I’ll tell you why. Because the ICC said they have a secret warrant.
(0:31:35) They said they have a… No, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, guys, guys, believe me, i-research nyo, i-google nyo ngayon. Sinabi ng ICC na under their rules, pwede nilang secret yung warrant. Sinabi nila yan a few months ago. That’s why tumakbo si Senator Bato sa Supreme Court. Kasi hindi niya nakita. When’s the first time that you heard na meron talagang warrant? Noong Sunday. When’s the first time na nakita niyo?
(0:32:02) Noong Monday, at ano bang paulit-ulit ko sinasabi sa lahat, di ba? It has to be a Philippine warrant. So if there’s a warrant for any of you here, na kung saan-saan, et cetera, at walang nagpapakita sa akin, hindi ko rin papayagan na arestuhin kayo sa loob ng Senado. It’s just that simple.
REPORTER:
(0:32:24) We were there yesterday, and we were made to kind of stay on the side, and… Inaudible.
(0:32:32) the OSAA actually said that they will arrest someone. They said that, we caught that on camera, may aarestuhin sila, nagpalit sila ng damit… Inaudible.
(0:32:44) After that, pumunta sila doon sa kabilang part. Then sumunod kami doon… Inaudible.
(0:32:49) I just want to ask, did they ever tell you who he was planning to arrest?
ASC:
(0:32:54) No. So, I’ll tell you a hundred percent.
REPORTER:
(0:33:01) There’s inconsistency.
ASC:
(0:33:04) Yes. It’s not inconsistent because you arrest someone who’s trying to enter the Senate.
REPORTER:
(0:33:08) You’re being attacked?
ASC:
(0:33:10) I only use the words “attacked” when everyone confirmed that we were fired upon. So, I’ll tell you this. If I go to you and say, please leave the room, I’m not attacking you. Diba? No, no, no. Okay, yeah. Or if I say, ma’am, take a seat, I’m not attacking you, right? But if I take out a gun and you tell me, sir, you can’t touch me. Sir, move away. And tinutukan kitang baril. That’s already maybe a motion going to, but when I actually fire the gun, so I’ll tell you to answer your question directly, okay?
(0:33:46) I don’t know the exact time, but the Sergeant of Arms went in to say, sir, the GSIS is inspecting cars. And when I talked to the administrator, he told me that they’re heightening security. And then he said, I asked him, so if a senator uses your gate, will you have them open your car, which is illegal.
(0:34:15) Which the NBI said in Monday they did not do. But one of the news channels, you actually captured that. Yung may puting van. And then they showed the plate number 7. And the NBI guy had a long gun. The other one was just keep saying, visual lang visual. Then they opened the van. That’s illegal.
(0:34:34) Okay, so ang instruction ko kay OSAA, can you invite the administrator of GSIS? I’d like to talk to him in the same very cool manner that I talked to the NBI Director. I wanted to know who asked him to do that and if he knows na illegal to inspect because they were closing that gate.
(0:34:56) If we didn’t allow. So is it safe for all of us to have one gate? So after that, every 5-10 minutes, I was trying to get an update. Then everything happened. So when I said at the first time I used “attack”, sorry, I was really dizzy and had a headache and was really on the ball last night.
(0:35:19) I don’t know where I first used the “attack”, but I’m 100% sure. If you look at my FB live, I delayed that still for a few minutes because I didn’t want to be alarmist. And I tried to make it to you here in the second floor, but they didn’t allow me. So, pinagalitan pa ako nung una to turn the lights on to do the Facebook live because now if there’s a shooter, it’ll be mahihirap, no?
(0:35:43) But sorry, I just want to say, there’s no dispute at this point in time. It’s attack. Ang question lang, who attack? That’s the only question.
REPORTER:
(0:35:53) Sir, I know you can’t give details paano nakapasok. Sir, kasi kaming mga Senate reporters, pabalik-balik kami doon sa area na yun. Hindi namin alam na may lagusan doon. May lagusan po ba doon sa gilid na yun, papuntang GSIS?
ASC:
(0:36:05) Same sa inyo, hindi ko alam. Kasi remember, I wasn’t in the Senate since nag-DFA ako until 2022. So the first time sa fifth floor na nakita ko yung mga rooms doon sa CA, but I didn’t know kung may lagusan doon. Then when they told me binabarena na yung doors, kasi we were here, we didn’t see, but I saw it in one news channel. It was either channel 7 or 2. Is there anything there?
REPORTER:
(0:36:34) Inaudible… may kinalaman doon yung pangkasong nung kalaban.
ASC:
(0:36:40) At that time, yun ang report ng staff ko that pinapatigil nila at tinatanong nila kung nagpipilit. So you, you, sorry, try to, ano, our frame of mind, no? We’re on high alert, everything’s happening, nagkakaputukan, then they’re telling them to stop, and you’re still doing that. In the meantime, may kilala kasi ako sa isang pulis sa labas. I went out, di ba, nung 2 o’clock.
(0:37:04) At that point in time pala, hindi nila alam na may nangyayari sa loob. This was before I did the Facebook and before I confirmed that. We really thought it was fireworks eh.
REPORTER:
(0:37:15) Inaudible…
(0:37:18) I haven’t seen the report if conclusive na yun. But all throughout the night, that’s why the heightened alert was there because we felt that. And you know, until Sec. Janvic left, hindi namin alam yung motive eh.
(0:37:33) If they got in by stealth, where would they go? Sa media? Sa akin? Will they get Sen. Bato? If nagputo ka na, would they retreat or…
(0:37:45) Hindi namin alam hanggang ngayon, anong mission, ilan sila and everything. That’s why nga, the best thing for all of us is to cooperate and finish this investigation.
REPORTER:
(0:37:54) But as per investigation, may lagusan nga. Hindi namin alam, may lagusan nga.
ASC:
(0:38:01) Sorry, I just, we can look at it now, but I don’t really know.
REPORTER:
(0:38:06) Sir, mayroong lumabas na sasakyan sa Senate parking. Could that have been him?
ASC:
(0:38:13) I’m not sure, basta ang sabi sa akin ni Jinggoy was around 3 a.m. Then I heard from the palace. So this is the report.
(0:38:28) On May 14, 2026, at around 2.30, the communication center reported to the sergeant’s arms that Senator Bato, together with Senator Padilla, had left the Senate premises. Upon receiving the report, the Sergeant’s Arms with Sec Mendoza proceeded to verify the information, et cetera, et cetera.
(0:38:46) But as I said, no, from reports sakin, but…
(0:38:51) Yeah. So, no. So, I got that. I got information. So, some of the news saw you kanina. Pinaakyat ko siya kasi sabi ko, baka nag-burger king lang. Bumalik. You never know talaga eh.
(0:39:04) And sabi nga, sir, confirmed wala ako. So sabi ko, then give me your earlier report. But I told them not to worry about it because, I mean, sabi ko nga sa kanila, I would have rathered his stay. I would have rathered we, but it’s his call. And I told the OSAA and the SecGen, you didn’t do anything illegal. You had no legal authority to stop him.
(0:39:25) So the OSAA is confirmed.
(0:39:28) No, sinabi lang they left. Hindi sinabing together or whatever. I haven’t asked. I haven’t talked to… I’m just saying ito. Together, Senator Padilla. So I don’t know if they left together or they both left. I’m just reading from you. I don’t know. I haven’t asked. I haven’t talked to Senator Padilla. But if they did, there’s nothing illegal with it. Sila talaga magkasama sa taas.
(0:40:00) Yeah, on, around, around and about.
REPORTER:
(0:40:00) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:40:00) There’s nothing illegal, eh. Unlike the former majority that keeps looking at every single detail sa CCTV, we’re focused on the attack on the Senate. I would rather Senator Bato stay here because I want him in the impeachment, but it’s his choice.
(0:40:21) He was not under any obligation to tell me there’s no warrant that was presented to me. If the NBI showed me the warrant, then I would have talked to Senator Bato. They did not. They had it Thursday. They did not submit it. There’s something going on with the NBI.
REPORTER:
(0:40:38) Inaudible…You alluded to a certain deal that you have.
ASC:
(0:40:43) Deal with, sorry.
REPORTER:
(0:40:44) You did not specify, but there was a deal and you said that you’re going to protect Senator Bato. There will be no warrant. So what deal were you referring to?
ASC:
(0:40:52) There’s no deal. When we spoke with the NBI Director, sabi niya, now that I know na yun ang stand- as soon as we heard dun sa session hall, we will respect. At ang sinabi ko sa kanya, meron kang mga boos, may DOJ, may kabinete, may ES, may Presidente, get instructions from there before you promise me anything.
(0:41:17) If I used the word “deal”, what I have said is we have an agreement. Number one, he’ll send a letter with the impeachment, with the warrant of arrest from the ICC. Number two, he will conduct an investigation impartially on the nine that tried to arrest Senator Bato and on the people who beat up yung OSAA..
(0:41:42) And then he asked, and that was the controversial one that I had to consult, na under his custody muna, yung siyam na na contempt. Yun lang.
REPORTER:
(0:41:56) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:41:58) Until now, they haven’t given us a report. Until now, NBI hasn’t given us anything except headaches. Even
(0:42:12) Ano kasi, it was… How do I put it?
(0:42:17) You know, it was one of like that action movies, things just happen so fast. So, he was there, kalma kayo, what’s happening, what happened, nandito, can we let the police in? Then afterwards nga, he said the president wants to talk to the SP, report ko na sayo kung ano yung mga assurances. Then as it wound down, yun nga, he asked na pwede bang palisin na yung mga staff, pwede ba yung mga senador mahuli?
(0:42:42) Because we want to assure your safety. We thank him. He left. He went. He whispered to me, not to the others, about the bag. Going in and out, ask me if we can see Senator Bato. Initially, yes, then no.
(0:43:05) And then yun nga, sa fifth floor, sinamahan niya ako, then we went to see you. When we were in the room, wrapping up, I announced na to my staff, they can leave the room na, they can go home. Then dun niya sinabi sa akin, then someone showed me a video na may dinadakip na, may ina-arrest na. And yun, tapos yung iba. Then I walked in when he was talking to the top PNP officials and our Sergeant at Arms.
(0:43:34) So, sorry. So, before I went to see the generals, bumaba bigla si Senator Bato. He was very fresh. The night before yesterday, sorry, Wednesday and Tuesday, I saw him physically and emotionally drained. But, ano, pagbaba niya. And then, nag-usap silang dalawa eh. I mean, we were all there. Robin…
(0:44:03) I’m not sure where Robin is. Basta sila Sec Remulla. Kasi I was waiting it.
(0:44:10) Where’s my room? Before midnight. Kasi mga 11.45. Siguro mga 10 p.m.? 11? 10? No, I left kasi mga 11.45 na eh. Mga 11 time…
REPORTER:
(0:44:27) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:44:31) Hilig nila humingi, ayaw nila mag-cooperate. Di ba? Ang nag-iimbestiga nito, inutusan na ng Presidente ang PNP at DILG. Di ba? What’s the motive ng NBI? They are part of the investigation, how will they investigate themselves?
(0:44:54) May kopya na ang PNP at saka ang DILG. So if they want to share that with the NBI, call nila yun.
(0:45:01) We were completely transparent. Yes, ma’am?
REPORTER:
(0:45:05) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:44:13) I have to be honest. Between 5.30 and 6 o’clock yesterday, when they told me, nag-adjourn yung session, I took a breath and I said, I lasted three days. Not knowing that the rest of the night will be…
REPORTER:
(0:45:29) senator in the senate is supposed to be a place of civility and it became a battleground and there’s a lot of criticism now about your ability to handle this practice and your activity as a senate leader and then on top of it despite your assurances that senator bato will be here, he’s escaped. What do you now say about him being made responsible?
ASC:
(0:45:51) Number one, my whole life, people doubted me. But God does not doubt me. So I’ll do my best. If my best is good enough for everyone, thank you. If not, there are 23 other senators you can choose from. Now, as far as escaping, he did not escape. He chose to leave. When you escape, you are under arrest, you’re under detention. So everyone, including his wife, used the word escape, but actually he did not escape.
(0:46:17) I mean in the technical legal sense. If you’re talking in the colloquial sense na hawak kita, escape, then correct naman yun. That’s why I admit even his wife used that. But it’s not in legal parlance, hindi escape. Umalis siya or he left. So no one has to take responsibility for that. Would I have rather he stayed here? Yes.
REPORTER:
(0:46:41) SP, bilik tayo dun sa CCTV, dun dito sa shooting incident. Na-secure na po ba siya at the same time?
ASC:
(0:46:49) To be fair kay Sec Jonvic, papunta pa lang siya and he said he’ll be here 10 minutes. Yun yung una niya pinasecure. Then as soon as he got here, nagharap sila ni OSAA. And I told OSAA, make sure in front of them, two copies. Meron tayo, meron sila.
(0:47:04) So, the only time, I think, nung may nahuli, there was no OSAA in the room. So, sila nag-interview. But when I talked to Sec Jonvic, kahit sumama kayo sa inquest, kahit gusto nyong makita, I think, I’m not sure kung may video, but we’re sharing information with the PNP and the DILG.
REPORTER:
(0:47:24) Will this be made public for transparency?
ASC:
(0:47:26) It should. I think they just want to complete para walang speculation.
REPORTER:
(0:47:32) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:47:37) Right now, right now,yun lang, let me check after the inquest. Feel free to direct your questions then to the chief PNP or Sec RemullaI just don’t want to put words in their mouth as now. Yes, sir.
REPORTER:
(0:47:51) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:47:55) In the Senate?Philippine Court. Philippine Court or a Supreme Court decision saying that a ICC warrant is as good as a Philippine Court warrant. Because in my view, in the Pangilinan versus Cayetano case, nakalagay doon that if any provision or any treaty is against the Constitution, the Constitution shall prevail. And the Philippine Constitution said that the only… valid warrant is a warrant of arrest from a Philippine judge.
REPORTER:
(0:48:27) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:48:32) So does that make it constitutional? No, the Supreme Court also said that any law that when you apply it, is against our constitution, you have to read that law with our constitution. And this is my question sa lahat ng nag-advocate niyan. Abogado pa naman sila.
(0:48:48) Human rights lawyers pa naman sila. Ang Canada, kailangan ka muna dumaan sa korte nila. Ang Korea, kailangan muna dumaan sa kanilang ano. Most if not all of the countries that are under the ICC has this rule. Bakit bukod tangi na gusto nyo ang Pilipinas ay pwedeng ang dayuhan ay dumating na lang at aresto yung isang Pilipino? Why do all other countries provide that their judicial authorities cannot be bypassed. Why are we insisting na ma-bypass yun? Ano bang mawawala sa atin na dadaan muna sa Philippine Courts?
REPORTER:
(0:49:27) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:49:35) Of course, because the Philippine Court will be the one to issue the warrant.
REPORTER:
(0:49:40) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:49:45) That’s the same. I understand what you… Yes, because then it will be a Philippine court. Diba? So, the example I gave… Sorry, I forgot na, no? If I had a twin, Peter Alan Cayetano…
(0:50:00) may ICC warrant ang hinuli si Alan Peter Cayetano. Sa Hague na ako magpapaliwanag na, “Hoy, ako si Alan Peter, ang hinuhuli niyo si Peter Alan.” Kaya nga sa Philippine Court muna. Para if I have any defenses, doon muna. So, nung bata ako, may kasabihan na, hindi pwede yung sa presido ka lang magpaliwanag. Diba? Tapat, meron kang warrant or you’re committing the act, na huli ka in flagrante delicto or while committing it. Pero yung sabihin lang, kamukha mo yung pumatay last week. Halika nga dito sa presinto ka. Hindi pwede yun. Kaya nga hindi rin pwedeng sa Hague ka na lang magpaliwanag. All Senator Bato is asking for is they in-court in Philippine court.
REPORTER:
(0:50:45) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:51:08) Well, number one, sa limang sinabi ni Director, anim ang mali. Sinabi niya, ibibigay niya waran. Sabi niya, ibibigay niya yung report. Sabi niya, papakita niya na hindi sila yung gumulpe. Sinabi niya na hindi sila nag-i-inspeksyon ng mga kotse. Tapos sinabi niya pa ulit-ulit yesterday, walang NBI sa Senado. E, PNP na mismo nagsabi. So, ang problema…
(0:51:40) The director seems to be lying to someone. He’s lying to the palace, he’s lying to me, he’s lying to us, he’s lying to ano. So ayusin niya muna sarili niya. Diba? They’re under investigation also eh.
(0:51:53) So, ilabas niya muna lahat ng facts bago kami mag-usap.
REPORTER:
(0:51:58) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:52:02) What does protective mean? Proteksyonan mo. Pag ayaw mo na yung protection ko, arestuhin kita. Diba? So, pag kayo sa media pumunta dito, Sir, seek sanctuary, bakit? Sabi na police, pero tingin namin hindi police, huliin kami. Umuwi sila, wala na. Sir, thank you sa protection nyo, uwi na ako. Ito naman itong korte. Na yung korte kasi pag sinabing under the custody, instead of bail. So, instead of bail, pupunta doon. So, I mean, ang request lang from the government and from the NBI director,
(0:52:39) Do statements na makakatulong. Kung gusto nyo hulihin si Senator Bato, then do your job. E ang problema, pinagbintangan na nila lahat. Pinagbintangan nila si Senator Sotto na pinapasok sila. Pinagbintangan si Senator Bato, hinabol daw siya dahil tumakbo siya. O pinagbintangan nila ang Senado, sinara daw namin. They can do their job. I don’t even know why they’re involved.
REPORTER:
(0:53:04) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:53:08) Because he came here and he asked for the tradition to be followed but before he is arrested, two things have to happen. I-present ang warrant and i-exhaust niya yung legal. So until last night, wala namang pine-present sa kanya. So how can I act upon something I do not have?
REPORTER:
(0:53:29) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:53:33) He did not ask for that. He did not ask for that. And sa tono sa akin ng wife is that he’s on his own. But we’re praying for him and I hope he’ll be okay.
REPORTER:
(0:53:30) Inaudible…
ASC:
(0:53:47) Maybe because of the electronic case. Thank you guys. Okay.
